Comments on: Xocai is a Scam

By: Dan P.

Dan P. — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:32:23 +0000

Michelle R. is a shill at best!!!!!!!!!!! Don’t believe this nonsense. The owners make the money, period. Her whole email is crap and she knows it. She’s a shill people. She did not make that much money or she’d be back bragging about how much more she has made since her original message. It’s a joke and good luck joining up and selling chocolate to family and friends because that’s all that’s going to happen. Cheers!

By: lily

lily — Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:51:12 +0000

My sister friend is into Xocai and of course she is talked to join and she did. Business like this is always a red flag on me. I bought one replacement meal kind and it taste awful! My sister has to sell her boxes of chocolate to anyone she knew and it’s just awful thing to do. Who on earth can afford buying a box of a very expensive altered cacao and add it with berry whatever that does not dissolve in either hot, cold or iced added water? I told my sister to earn profit you have to generate and sell a lot of Xocai hello..good luck.I tried buying one just to make her happy. it’s apyramid period. I’d rather eat a commercial chocolate from godiva, taste more better.

By: Ronan

Ronan — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:34:16 +0000

Michelle, Congrats on making some money and loosing weight. However if we assume you make yourself contactable 40 hours per week. The two months income you made is equivalent to $2.5 per hour, probably before expenses such as phone, transport to meetings, taxes etc.

Business fundamentals simply make this in impracticable venture. It’s selling a dream to others (100% of your examples income) and no physical sales of the core product (0% in your example). Its the classic 90s pyramid scheme scam with a product loosely tied in. I’m not saying people shouldn’t use the product or network with others for a social life, but dont call it a business.

Also in terms of walking the talk, I’ve made my reputation and money by solid investments and fundamentals. I’m not some anonymous poster.

By: Michelle R

Michelle R — Fri, 17 Sep 2010 08:21:26 +0000

I’ve been a distributor with xocai for 2 months now and made over $2000 (70% from new recruits commission, 30% team sales commission)- I don’t even have a background in sales and never been in a network marketing! I am a walking billboard of the product as I lost 10 lbs in 3 weeks! Everyone wants to know my secret. Walk the Talk first before you waste all your time formulating your opinion here. P.S. One of my downline made $3000 in 6 weeks!

By: Ronan

Ronan — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:21:57 +0000

Apparently not, would have been great if he could have. But frankly i wouldn’t believe them anyway.

One has to question the logic of someone that creates a website as a brochure but with no intent to sell or ability to contact them.

If the product or scheme was so great we’d have heard more about it after this much time.

So it’s safe to say now, it’s a time wasting scam that offers no actual opportunity to get rich at all. Not a single person in Ireland that i’ve heard of has made any profits near enough to cover their costs.

By: Meduka

Meduka — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:54:25 +0000

Could Dave provide us with some of his costs and profits etc.

By: Aaron Meisner

Aaron Meisner — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:21:34 +0000

I have been living with the Xocai scam for a year now, my mother has bought into the religion and is of course going to be making big money, its always about the opportunity that will occur, but never what is occurring, she is constantly trying to reach levels, buys herself into those levels, this is not a sound model for business, she is a customer, Dave you are a customer, MLM is not a scam in the sense of it really makes money for the founders, it is an elaborate way for the founders to have sustainable sales. How much money have you made Dave? How much have you spent? Nobody ever explains those numbers. Who cares how healthy it is, money is the only thing that matters in a business, if you buy into the belief that they are supplying this product because they want to heal the world they would sell it to the world and share this wonderful product and save lives, wake up. It borders on a religion, you are the pawns they are your idols.

Have fun making Jeanette rich.

By: Dave Millard

Dave Millard — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:30:06 +0000

Ronan,
Thanks for the response.
To respond to your question about the difference in price for a consumer vs a distributor. Here is the logic that I use, bear in mind that this is me talking here, not Xocai.
For a simple consumer, you are purchasing this product with no intent on reselling. For a distributor, you are purchasing at “wholesale” thus you have the ability to repackage and re-sell if you wish. So, I always suggest to anyone that wants to consume the product that they just come in as a distributor. This will give you the benefit of lower price, but it also gives you the ability at some point to sell it if you find yourself in need at some point. The way the compensation plan works, you may actually have some people placed under you in the Binary tree whose purchases will accumulate over time thus giving you the ability to earn money in the future on sales made today. You know, not everyone is looking for another way to make money today. But in the economic times that we are faced with, who knows what tomorrow may hold. I just don’t see a downside to suggesting that a person become a dist rather than just ordering the product. There are also certain tax advantages in the US for a “home based business like Xocai” that one can take advantage of as well.
As for the cost comparison, I don’t have a lot of info on the other product mentioned, so it is hard for me to really give a “nuts and bolts” comparison. But I will say this about our chocolate. We have no fillers, no waxes and the Acai berry is not exactly cheap (try to buy some and you will see) so these three things jump off the page to me. We may ask a bit more for our chocolate, as it is not your “candy” that you will find in the store. The sweeteners are complex, not simple. Its diabetic friendly, unlike most And, they have to pay me! I mean let’s be serious; would a distributor go out and sell something that they will only make a 1.00 on? Probably not. There is a pay component that one must take into account. But, the product is unique, and it works, so I will gladly spend my hard earned bucks to keep enjoying it. And most important, it requires someone to go out and tell the story, to inform and help others learn etc. So, you are paying for a product and the knowledge to get the work out to the public about it. Both are equally important to the success of any new launch.
As for my site, I do not advertise in the UK or EU so I think I am good for now. If someone happens upon it from a blog or something, I have a contact page and FAQ page that will answer most of their concerns. I will take it under advisement however and look at adding the location to the page. After all, I have nothing to hide and work pretty hard to stay transparent.
By the way, I am located in Beaufort SC and run my Xocai business in Florida, GA, NY, Canada, Mass, CA, Il and NM. I spend most of my time in Florida and South Carolina.
Thanks again, hope this helps.
Dave

By: Ronan

Ronan — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:15:16 +0000

Hi Dave,

Thanks for giving your balanced perspective and glad to hear that you’ve made some money.

Would love to heard your thoughts on if you think the business model is flawed from a perspective that it is cheaper to become a user just buying one box a month and calling yourself a distributor than being a customer? Also i’d question you cost comparison in relation the the above mentioned like with like comparison, not apples v oranges, but then again i understand that is the information Xocai gave you.

Also not meaning to Neg and i do understand that your site is brand new, but if your in Ireland / the EU, this site is in breach of several laws. I’d recommend have a legal adviser run through the distant selling act with you. For example you are legally required (if in the EU) to state an address on your website, a contact number and returns policy if you sell products online. This would also increase your sales as customers are less likely to buy from your site at the moment since you give no indication of what country you are in as is the case at the moment.

Best of luck with the business, i really hope it works out for you.

By: Dave Millard

Dave Millard — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:34:47 +0000

I appreciate the comments on the page thus far. I too was a skeptic when I was looking into Xocai, as I had been burned in previous MLM’s and just wanted to be sure. I decided to give Xocai a try and here is what I have found.

1. The Brookes family did have some failures in the past. They seem to have learned from the mistakes and have done a couple things differently this time.

a. First to overcome the efficacy of the product they have the chocolate tested AFTER processing by a third party firm (Brunswick labs) to give the buyer confidence. I looked up Brunswick labs and they seem to be very legit. Their site is devoted to antioxidant research and testing.

b. Second, the pay structure is lucrative but fair. You must work with your downline, helping them to succeed or you do not get the full payout from the compensation plan. It rewards those that help people, not those that simply recruit, recruit, and recruit. The company is debt free, maybe due to past mistakes, I do not know. But for what is relevant today, the debt free part, which gives me assurance. I know that I have made errors in the past, and I think I have learned from them. From what I can tell this seems to be what happened to the Brookes family. They screwed up, it’s a fact, but they also seem to have learned and grown from the mistake. I give them Kudos for getting back up and trying again, it seems to be working.

2. I have made money in the company. I see the value in having others sell a product that will in turn pay me a commission. The big difference here is that 1/3 of the people that have signed up are simply using the product. They have seen results and will continue to use it for quite some time based on their results. This gives me a long term cash flow from a single sale. I like this aspect. I think this is the reason I have made and will continue to make money in this company. I have been in since Dec of last year, my downline has over 180 people in it and more sign up every week. It is work, it does meet with resistance at times, and there is no magic bullet. I work with those that I sponsor, and try to teach them to do the same. Maybe that is why it has continued, I can only speak for what I have seen.

If you are looking for a company that is perfect, this is not the one, but it is a pretty good one and the product really does help people. I have seen it myself, and at first I was surprised, but to be honest, now it is so common that I actually expect it. I think this will give us long term stability as people want to feel better and many love chocolate. So when you put the two together it just seems to work. I hope this has helped you, best of luck with your decision. Dave